[IPCmte-L] Hilgert Puzzle Book

[Diane C Holliman]

Hi All,  I know this sounds like an excuse, but . . . my mom has been 
very sick this week and last week and I am just catching up with 
emails.  I am off campus right now--I do want to catch up with this 
discussion. Sorry to be so tardy with my reply. Diane 

Thomas J. Manning wrote:


>The term "directed assignment" means????   When I develop new 
educational material for students I was never specifically directed to 
do this but it is definitely part of my job. I do lots of it at home at 
night/weekends simply because it is easier but all of the ideas are 
derived from my experience at VSU.  The same for research - no one ever 
directed me to do work in this area or that area BUT if I worked 
elsewhere I never would be working on the same projects - the 
location/situation originates and shapes the ideas.
     Having receipts from stores for folders, etc is great - but where 
was the idea derived?  If this is a university precedent - I'm not 
clear how a faculty member can write a book for a class he/she is 
teaching but say the university community was not part of molding the 
idea? 
     Also, do the authors list their home or VSU address in the book? 
     IMHO, tom manning

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[mailto:ipcmte-l-bounces at lighthouse.valdosta.edu] On Behalf Of Hollis R 
Barnett
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [IPCmte-L] Hilgert Puzzle Book

This is also discussion not a vote.

Thank you George for you comments. I agree with your opinion.

I do not appreciate being referred to as a “roadblock” when I am asked 
to protect University interest. Please see Andrew Ostapski’s letter. I 
am sure that once we refine the disclosure forms to include evidence 
which will support a claimed effort, the process will become much more 
streamlined. 

With the letter from Bob Bauer it is clear that this is not an assigned 
task. I feel that we should encourage research regardless of the 
location that it was completed.  A portion of faculty load is to do 
research. I would hate to see faculty running from campus once they 
have completed teaching their classes because they were afraid that 
individual efforts could be clamed by the University. We would have 
more parking but not a healthy productive environment.

I see this as an individual effort. However, I am the chair of this 
committee. I think that a motion should come from one of the members.

Thank you,

Hollis


George Gaumond wrote:


>Discussion, not a vote.
>I suspect that each of us is waiting for a first vote to get a sense of 
direction.
>
>Anyway:
>1. It is clear from Bob Bauer's email that the work was not a directed 
assignment.
>2. The most useful information seems to be Barbara's summary of Larry's 
verbal comments.
>3. But, there does not seem to be any substantiation of Barbara's 
question about the work being done during "off" hours and with personal 
computers.
>4. Andy's statement about using University computers and negative 
comments about bureaucratic roadblocks did not help me understand.  I 
did not see how "waste" would occur by being careful of separating 
individual effort from university supported.
>
>My assessment:
>The work was not an assignment and personal, not university, supplies 
were used.
>But, university computers were used, implying that the work was 
performed during normal working hours.  There is no statement about 
"weekends, evenings and summer months" as Barbara suggested.
>
>Based on what I read, it looks like "university assisted" effort 
because they used "paid time within the employment period" and used VSU 
computers.  
>
>Alternatively, since the phrase "other than office" is used in the 
policy, one could define that to include a work computer, assuming that 
no resources were used except electricity (vs. telecommunication 
services that implies charges).  I think that mitigates the PC, but not 
the time.
>
>Am I assessing too rigidly?
>
>George


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